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		<title>Smithsonian Institute Statement Regarding the Book of Mormon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Steimle</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>As stated at <a href="http://www.mrm.org/smithsonian">MRM.org</a>:</p>
<p><em>Some Latter-day Saints, in their zeal to give tangible  authenticity to the Book of Mormon, have told prospective converts that  the Smithsonian Institution has used the Book of Mormon to verify sites  in the New World. In response to numerous requests on this subject, the  Smithsonian has issued the following paper detailing their position on  the matter.</em><br />
<em>Information from the National Museum of Natural History Smithsonian  Institution, Washington, D.C. 20560</em></p>
<p><em>Statement Regarding the Book of Mormon</em></p>
<p><em>1. The Smithsonian Institution has never used the Book of Mormon in  any way as a scientific guide. Smithsonian</em>&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As stated at <a href="http://www.mrm.org/smithsonian">MRM.org</a>:</p>
<p><em>Some Latter-day Saints, in their zeal to give tangible  authenticity to the Book of Mormon, have told prospective converts that  the Smithsonian Institution has used the Book of Mormon to verify sites  in the New World. In response to numerous requests on this subject, the  Smithsonian has issued the following paper detailing their position on  the matter.</em><br />
<em>Information from the National Museum of Natural History Smithsonian  Institution, Washington, D.C. 20560</em></p>
<p><em>Statement Regarding the Book of Mormon</em></p>
<p><em>1. The Smithsonian Institution has never used the Book of Mormon in  any way as a scientific guide. Smithsonian archaeologists see no direct  connection between the archaeology of the New World and the subject  matter of the book.</em></p>
<p><em>2. The physical type of the American Indian is basically Mongoloid,  being most closely related to that of the peoples of eastern, central,  and northeastern Asia. Archaeological evidence indicates that the  ancestors of the present Indians came into the New World &#8212; probably  over a land bridge known to have existed in the Bering Strait region  during the last Ice Age &#8212; in a continuing series of small migrations  beginning from about 25,000 to 30,000 years ago.</em></p>
<p><em>3. Present evidence indicates that the first people to reach this  continent from the East were the Norsemen who briefly visited the  northeastern part of North America around A.D. 1000 and then settled in  Greenland. There is nothing to show that they reached Mexico or Central  America.</em></p>
<p><em>4. One of the main lines of evidence supporting the scientific  finding that contacts with Old World civilizations, if indeed they  occurred at all, were of very little significance for the development of  American Indian civilizations, is the fact that none of the principal  Old World domesticated food plants or animals (except the dog) occurred  in the New World in pre-Columbian times. American Indians had no wheat,  barley, oats, millet, rice, cattle, pigs, chickens, horses, donkeys,  camels before 1492. (Camels and horses were in the Americas, along with  the bison, mammoth, and mastodon, but all these animals became extinct  around 10,000 B.C. at the time the early big game (sic) hunters spread  across the Americas.)</em></p>
<p><em>5. Iron, steel, glass, and silk were not used in the New World before  1492 (except for occasional use of unsmelted meteoric iron). Native  copper was worked used (sic) in various locations in pre-Columbian  times, but true metallurgy was limited to southern Mexico and the Andean  region, where its occurrence in late prehistoric times involved gold,  silver, copper, and their alloys, but not iron.</em></p>
<p><em>6. There is a possibility that the spread of cultural traits across  the Pacific to Mesoamerica and the northwestern coast of South America  began several hundred years before the Christian era. However, any such  inter-hemispheric contacts appear to have been the results of accidental  voyages originating in eastern and southern Asia. It is by means  certain that even such contacts occurred; certainly there were no  contacts with the ancient Egyptians, Hebrews, or other peoples of  Western Asia and the Near East.</em></p>
<p><em>7. No reputable Egyptologist or other specialist on Old World  archaeology, and no expert on New World prehistory, has discovered or  confirmed any relationship between archaeological remains in Mexico and  archaeological remains in Egypt.</em></p>
<p><em>8. Reports of findings of ancient Egyptian, Hebrew, and other Old  World writings in the New World in pre-Columbian contexts have  frequently appeared in newspapers, magazines, and sensational books.  None of these claims has stood up to examination by reputable scholars.  No inscriptions using Old World forms of writing have been shown to have  occurred in any part of the Americas before 1492 except for a few Norse  rune stones which have been found in Greenland.</em></p>
<p><em>9.  There are copies of the Book of Mormon in the library of the  National Museum, of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution.</em></p>
<p><em>SIL &#8211; 76 Rev. May 1980</em><br />
Unfortunately, some anti-Mormons, in their zeal to disprove the Book of Mormon, have taken this and other similar letters as proof that the Book of Mormon is false. But let&#8217;s examine each part of the statement the Smithsonian makes:</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>The Smithsonian Institution has never used the Book of Mormon in  any  way as a scientific guide.&#8221;</em> &#8211; Fair enough. The Book of Mormon was never intended to be such, and I believe any thinking Mormon would agree the Book of Mormon is a poor guide to the archaeology of the Western Hemisphere. Of course that doesn&#8217;t stop Mormons from getting excited about any archaeological news that might support the Book of Mormon, but any Mormon who would rely on such news or &#8220;evidence&#8221; as proof that the Book of Mormon is true is, as the statement above says, most likely mislead by their &#8220;zeal&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Smithsonian archaeologists see no direct  connection between the  archaeology of the New World and the subject  matter of the book.</em>&#8221; &#8211; This is not to say there is no connection, merely to say the Smithsonian archaeologists don&#8217;t see any such connection. But is that because they&#8217;ve researched it thoroughly and can&#8217;t find any connection, or because they don&#8217;t care enough about the matter to research it at all? Remember, the purpose of this statement was not to state that the Book of Mormon is not true, only to stop those rumors that the Smithsonian had used the Book of Mormon in their archaeological studies.</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>The physical type of the American Indian is basically Mongoloid,   being most closely related to that of the peoples of eastern, central,   and northeastern Asia. Archaeological evidence indicates that the   ancestors of the present Indians came into the New World &#8212; probably   over a land bridge known to have existed in the Bering Strait region   during the last Ice Age &#8212; in a continuing series of small migrations   beginning from about 25,000 to 30,000 years ago.</em>&#8221; &#8211; I&#8217;m a Mormon, and I agree with this statement, yet I still believe the Book of Mormon to be true. The &#8220;urban legend&#8221; amongst many, if not most, Mormons has long been that <em>all</em> natives of North and South America, from the Eskimos in Alaska to whatever natives live farthest south were exclusively descendants of the people of the Book of Mormon. However, the intrinsic and extrinsic evidence points to the Book of Mormon people (excluding those in the book of Ether known as the Jaredites&#8211;who are of unknown origin although there is some evidence to suggest they came from some part of Asia) being a relatively small civilization amongst many others that already existed on these Western continents.</p>
<p>Much of this confusion among Mormons most likely stems from a misinterpretation of passages in the Book of Mormon referring to &#8220;the narrow neck of land&#8221; and the &#8220;land northward&#8221; and the &#8220;land southward&#8221;. It is easy to see how someone would immediately assume these passages refer to the area that is now home to the Panama Canal, and the North and South American continents. However, the most basic reading of the Book of Mormon is enough to disprove the isthmus of Panama as being the &#8220;narrow neck of land&#8221; since the Book of Mormon also describes it as a &#8220;day&#8217;s journey&#8221; whereas the isthmus is not nearly narrow enough at any point to allow a person to cross it on foot in anything close to as little time as one day. In addition, there are other areas of Central America that <em>do </em>conform to the descriptions given, and which make quite a bit more sense upon a more thorough investigation of the Book of Mormon text. But of course in the early days of the LDS Church such investigation was not possible, geographic knowledge was limited, and so it&#8217;s simple to see how an erroneous assumption could have been made. That the urban legend still exists today is a testament not to the stubbornness of Mormons to believe what is scientifically doubtful, but rather a sign of the lack of importance given to this matter by most Mormons. It is a matter of curiosity, not of faith. If they think about it at all, most Mormons assume it all makes sense somehow, even if the information to piece it all together isn&#8217;t yet available.  But who cares? For most, it&#8217;s just for fun, and the important stuff is living the faith, not the archaeology of it.</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Present evidence indicates that the first people to reach this   continent from the East were the Norsemen who briefly visited the   northeastern part of North America around A.D. 1000 and then settled in   Greenland. There is nothing to show that they reached Mexico or Central   America.</em>&#8221; &#8211; More or less irrelevant, since it&#8217;s believed Lehi&#8217;s family arrived from the West, and again, they were a small civilization among many others.</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>One of the main lines of evidence supporting the scientific  finding  that contacts with Old World civilizations, if indeed they  occurred at  all, were of very little significance for the development of  American  Indian civilizations, is the fact that none of the principal  Old World  domesticated food plants or animals (except the dog) occurred  in the  New World in pre-Columbian times. American Indians had no wheat,   barley, oats, millet, rice, cattle, pigs, chickens, horses, donkeys,   camels before 1492. (Camels and horses were in the Americas, along with   the bison, mammoth, and mastodon, but all these animals became extinct   around 10,000 B.C. at the time the early big game (sic) hunters spread   across the Americas.)</em>&#8221; &#8211; Again, if the civilization of the Book of Mormon was relatively small, it&#8217;s easily possible that animals and plants mentioned in the Book of Mormon could have existed without there being any fossil or historical record of them. The fossilization of a single organism is an extremely rare event, generally understood to represent tens or hundreds of thousands or even millions of such organisms that did not become fossilized. And if we have no history of the Book of Mormon people other than that in the Book of Mormon itself, then if some of these plants and animal species were unique to their civilization as a matter of their being brought over with them, then this is not unfathomable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure it makes sense to respond to the rest of the items, because they all hinge on the same point&#8211;if the Book of Mormon claimed that its people filled North and South America and were the sole progenitors of today&#8217;s Native Americans, then yes, there is a problem. If, as I claim here, the Book of Mormon people were a small civilization among many others, then these statements by the Smithsonian say nothing but that there is still ample archeological work to be done in Central America, where there are thousands, if not tens of thousands of known sites that have never been excavated or researched. I&#8217;ve been there and seen it. Who knows what is yet to be found?</p>
<p>More resources related to this topic:</p>
<p>Jeff Lindsay &#8211; <a href="http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/smithsonian.shtml">The Smithsonian Institution&#8217;s 1996 &#8220;Statement Regarding the Book of Mormon&#8221;</a><br />
FAIR &#8211; <a href="http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Mormon/Archaeology/Smithsonian_statement">Book of Mormon/Archaeology/Smithsonian statement</a><br />
LDS Church News &#8211; <a href="http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/57752/Paleontologist-defends-the-Book-of-Mormon.html">Paleontologist defends the Book of Mormon</a></p>
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		<title>Egyptians, Horses, and Rocks in Hats</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Steimle</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
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<p>Joshua,</p>
<p>I would appreciate the name of just one secular encyclopediaa and page which provides supporting information that:</p>
<p>1. “Reformed Egyptian” was really an ancient language.</p>
<p>2. “Domesticated” horses existed in the America’s prior to Columbus.</p>
<p>3. That ancient languages can be translated by looking at a rock in a hat. See: (Ensign » 1993 » July A Treasured Testament By Elder Russell M. Nelson)</p>
<p><strong>Answer:</strong></p>
<p>Of course there isn&#8217;t any secular encyclopedia that provides supporting information, but here are some explanations of perhaps why:</p>
<p>1. Reformed Egyptian was a language perhaps known by no one else but</p></div><p>&#8230;</p>]]></description>
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<p>Joshua,</p>
<p>I would appreciate the name of just one secular encyclopediaa and page which provides supporting information that:</p>
<p>1. “Reformed Egyptian” was really an ancient language.</p>
<p>2. “Domesticated” horses existed in the America’s prior to Columbus.</p>
<p>3. That ancient languages can be translated by looking at a rock in a hat. See: (Ensign » 1993 » July A Treasured Testament By Elder Russell M. Nelson)</p>
<p><strong>Answer:</strong></p>
<p>Of course there isn&#8217;t any secular encyclopedia that provides supporting information, but here are some explanations of perhaps why:</p>
<p>1. Reformed Egyptian was a language perhaps known by no one else but the people of the Book of Mormon, which appears to have been a relatively small group of people limited to a specific geographic area most likely in Central America. If so, how would anybody know about their language unless there were an archaeological discovery? And since there are literally thousands and thousands of sites in Central America that have yet to be excavated, and major discoveries are being made all the time, is it completely implausible that there might yet, at some future date 10, 20, or 50 years in the future, be the discovery of the same language the plates were originally written in?</p>
<p>2. No, but again, there are important discoveries being made all the time so we don&#8217;t know what we haven&#8217;t discovered yet. People used to say there were never any horses at all, not they admit there were horses, but no domesticated horses. But there&#8217;s even the question of whether Joseph Smith really meant &#8220;horses&#8221; when he wrote &#8220;horses&#8221;. There&#8217;s some good stuff on this over at Jeff Linsay&#8217;s site under the post &#8220;<a href="http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_BMProb2.shtml">Plants and Animals in the Book of Mormon</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>3. Well, of course that&#8217;s just silly. There&#8217;s also no secular encyclopedia that explains how a man can die and then come back to life three days later, so if we&#8217;re in trouble on that point so is the rest of Christianity. Now, perhaps that&#8217;s not an issue for you, and if not, then the question I would ask is whether the scientific community can prove that such a thing is impossible. If they can&#8217;t prove that it is impossible, how can you claim it is? If you had put the question to the scientific community of 150 years ago as to whether it was possible to cook food without a flame, they could have racked their brains and they would have come back and have said it was impossible, and yet every one of us can purchase that technology for $50 at Wal-Mart.</p>
<p>Science doesn&#8217;t have all the answers. It doesn&#8217;t even have most of the answers. Chances are we know less than 1% of 1% of all there is to know about our own world, physics, etc., let alone the rest of the universe. To say something is impossible because modern science doesn&#8217;t know it is to assume we have all the answers, and such a viewpoint could only be held by someone who is virtually ignorant of the scientific world and how much there is yet to be discovered.</p>
<p>Actually, now that I think about it, we are getting pretty good with translation technology these days, so I&#8217;m not sure it is completely unbelievable that within a few decades we might be able to produce a device that would look like a clear rock or piece of glass, and which might be able to show us an English translation of any text placed on the other side of it. If we, as mere men, can create such a thing, I&#8217;m guessing it was probably even easier for God, and I bet it worked better too. Of course if you don&#8217;t believe in God, then that explanation doesn&#8217;t work, but if there is no God then none of the above questions really matter anyway.</p></div>
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