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	<title>Comments on: Do Mormons believe they get their own planet after they die?</title>
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		<title>By: FurE14U</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I know...Mormon guys are HOT!  WOOF!</description>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua, one more think before I take a break from all of this, if our interpretations are incorrect, then all we get from it is a place in a lower heaven which really in the grand scheme of things is not much of risk.

But if people from the LDS church are incorrect in their interpretations and they aren&#039;t following the true Jesus of the Bible, then they risk being in outer darkness for enternity out of the presence of Heavenly Father.

Because we believe that the three heavens in the Bible are: 

1. the sky above our earth where the clouds are and the birds fly, etc.

2. outer space (the entire universe outside of our atmosphere).

3. Heaven (the only one) where God himself resides.

So no I didn&#039;t come here to harras people from the LDS church but only to witness to the truth because I care about people from the LDS church.

Thank you for allowing me to post my beliefs in these matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua, one more think before I take a break from all of this, if our interpretations are incorrect, then all we get from it is a place in a lower heaven which really in the grand scheme of things is not much of risk.</p>
<p>But if people from the LDS church are incorrect in their interpretations and they aren&#8217;t following the true Jesus of the Bible, then they risk being in outer darkness for enternity out of the presence of Heavenly Father.</p>
<p>Because we believe that the three heavens in the Bible are: </p>
<p>1. the sky above our earth where the clouds are and the birds fly, etc.</p>
<p>2. outer space (the entire universe outside of our atmosphere).</p>
<p>3. Heaven (the only one) where God himself resides.</p>
<p>So no I didn&#8217;t come here to harras people from the LDS church but only to witness to the truth because I care about people from the LDS church.</p>
<p>Thank you for allowing me to post my beliefs in these matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are all sinners who don’t deserve anything except outer darkness for eternity for even one sin because, as I pointed out in my last post, Heavenly Father cannot look upon even one sin but it impossible to never commit any sins so what is the solution?

1 John 1:8 says:

“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”

But even the Apostle Paul knew that he still sinned and did things he really didn’t want to do.

Romans 7:18-20 says:

“For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.”
The solution?  Believing in Jesus Christ, period!

Romans 8:1-2 says:

“There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.”
So, as I also pointed out, you can find true rest in your soul by trusting in what Jesus Christ did in your place on the cross and this is how you can know that you are truly forgiven.
My LDS friends, you can never live up to the perfection God demands on your own without giving it all to Jesus who did it all for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are all sinners who don’t deserve anything except outer darkness for eternity for even one sin because, as I pointed out in my last post, Heavenly Father cannot look upon even one sin but it impossible to never commit any sins so what is the solution?</p>
<p>1 John 1:8 says:</p>
<p>“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”</p>
<p>But even the Apostle Paul knew that he still sinned and did things he really didn’t want to do.</p>
<p>Romans 7:18-20 says:</p>
<p>“For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.”<br />
The solution?  Believing in Jesus Christ, period!</p>
<p>Romans 8:1-2 says:</p>
<p>“There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.”<br />
So, as I also pointed out, you can find true rest in your soul by trusting in what Jesus Christ did in your place on the cross and this is how you can know that you are truly forgiven.<br />
My LDS friends, you can never live up to the perfection God demands on your own without giving it all to Jesus who did it all for you!</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
		<link>http://www.mormondna.org/mormon-beliefs/mormons-planet-die.html#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But to people of the LDS church, do you truly know that you are forgiven for any sins you have committed or may commit in the future?
Because unless you are perfect for your entire life you will end up in outer darkness and the following passages show how all human beings are, to varying degrees, and none of us can ever hope to be in the presence of Heavenly Father without an atoning blood sacrifice to take our sins away as he cannot look upon sin in any form. 

Romans 3:10-13 says:

“There is none righteous, no, not one; There is none who understands;
There is none who seeks after God They have all turned aside; 
They have together become unprofitable;
There is none who does good, no, not one 
Their throat is an open tomb; With their tongues they have practiced deceit”

Romans 3:22 says:

“for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”

Isaiah 64:6 says:

But we are all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags; 
We all fade as a leaf. And our iniquities, like the wind
Have taken us away

The good news is that we can know we are truly forgiven by believing in Jesus and what he did for us, period, there is no other Gospel except this.
And no, we cannot progress to this as even one sin, which is not just a mistake, but is something that will keep us out of the presence of Heavenly Father forever.

So what did Jesus do for us?
He died on the cross in our place and his blood, the blood of someone completely innocent, paid the price for all of us, the guilty, and it is by his grace we are saved not by works lest anyone should boast.

So I know I am saved and I will spend eternity in heaven with my Heavenly Father as I have repented of my sins and I believe in Jesus and what he did for me and that he rose from the dead on the third day and believing in him and what he did for me is all that will keep me from outer darkness as without the blood of Jesus shed for me, I can’t possibly, no matter how hard I try, live up to it.


Matthew 11:28-30 says:

Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.  For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

So all Jesus expects of us is to believe in him (that is that is his burden put on us) as he did everything for us by dying on the cross in our place so that Heavenly Father will not remember our sins past, present, or future so the rest for our souls is in Jesus Christ and what he did for all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But to people of the LDS church, do you truly know that you are forgiven for any sins you have committed or may commit in the future?<br />
Because unless you are perfect for your entire life you will end up in outer darkness and the following passages show how all human beings are, to varying degrees, and none of us can ever hope to be in the presence of Heavenly Father without an atoning blood sacrifice to take our sins away as he cannot look upon sin in any form. </p>
<p>Romans 3:10-13 says:</p>
<p>“There is none righteous, no, not one; There is none who understands;<br />
There is none who seeks after God They have all turned aside;<br />
They have together become unprofitable;<br />
There is none who does good, no, not one<br />
Their throat is an open tomb; With their tongues they have practiced deceit”</p>
<p>Romans 3:22 says:</p>
<p>“for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”</p>
<p>Isaiah 64:6 says:</p>
<p>But we are all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags;<br />
We all fade as a leaf. And our iniquities, like the wind<br />
Have taken us away</p>
<p>The good news is that we can know we are truly forgiven by believing in Jesus and what he did for us, period, there is no other Gospel except this.<br />
And no, we cannot progress to this as even one sin, which is not just a mistake, but is something that will keep us out of the presence of Heavenly Father forever.</p>
<p>So what did Jesus do for us?<br />
He died on the cross in our place and his blood, the blood of someone completely innocent, paid the price for all of us, the guilty, and it is by his grace we are saved not by works lest anyone should boast.</p>
<p>So I know I am saved and I will spend eternity in heaven with my Heavenly Father as I have repented of my sins and I believe in Jesus and what he did for me and that he rose from the dead on the third day and believing in him and what he did for me is all that will keep me from outer darkness as without the blood of Jesus shed for me, I can’t possibly, no matter how hard I try, live up to it.</p>
<p>Matthew 11:28-30 says:</p>
<p>Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.  For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”</p>
<p>So all Jesus expects of us is to believe in him (that is that is his burden put on us) as he did everything for us by dying on the cross in our place so that Heavenly Father will not remember our sins past, present, or future so the rest for our souls is in Jesus Christ and what he did for all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Steimle</title>
		<link>http://www.mormondna.org/mormon-beliefs/mormons-planet-die.html#comment-520</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Steimle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Jesus of the Bible &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; the Jesus we believe in. We don&#039;t see any conflict between what the Bible says and what we believe. We believe we are following the true Jesus, the true God, and the true gospel. Again, it&#039;s all a matter of subjective interpretation.

Not that we believe everyone else is following the wrong Jesus, wrong God, wrong gospel, per se. We just believe all other religions have portions of the truth, but not all of it. You might compare it to two people who each have maps to show them how to get to the same place. Both maps are complete and show the same course to be taken, but one shows more detail, making it easier to navigate. Likewise the Book of Mormon, other scriptures, and modern-day prophets add detail to the gospel. They clarify the points where there is confusion and make the path more clear.

I&#039;m sure anyone who sincerely studies the Bible and follows its teachings will be saved. But if God wants to give us more scripture to compliment the Bible and help us better follow his gospel, why reject it? What sense does it make to tell God &quot;Nope, I&#039;ve got enough truth and I don&#039;t need anymore.&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Jesus of the Bible <em>is</em> the Jesus we believe in. We don&#8217;t see any conflict between what the Bible says and what we believe. We believe we are following the true Jesus, the true God, and the true gospel. Again, it&#8217;s all a matter of subjective interpretation.</p>
<p>Not that we believe everyone else is following the wrong Jesus, wrong God, wrong gospel, per se. We just believe all other religions have portions of the truth, but not all of it. You might compare it to two people who each have maps to show them how to get to the same place. Both maps are complete and show the same course to be taken, but one shows more detail, making it easier to navigate. Likewise the Book of Mormon, other scriptures, and modern-day prophets add detail to the gospel. They clarify the points where there is confusion and make the path more clear.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure anyone who sincerely studies the Bible and follows its teachings will be saved. But if God wants to give us more scripture to compliment the Bible and help us better follow his gospel, why reject it? What sense does it make to tell God &#8220;Nope, I&#8217;ve got enough truth and I don&#8217;t need anymore.&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The major difference between the truths found in the Bible and the the beliefs of the LDS church seems to center on who Jesus is.

Is he someone who progressed to became the perfect being he is today (LDS version) or is he God almighty who took the form of a perfect human being to fulfill the need for the perfect sacrifice as foretold in the Bible by the Old Testament sacrifices of the spotless innocent animals such as lambs?  

My concern is that people are following another gospel that is leading people towards outer darkness.

Because the Bible warns in Galatians 1:9:

“if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The major difference between the truths found in the Bible and the the beliefs of the LDS church seems to center on who Jesus is.</p>
<p>Is he someone who progressed to became the perfect being he is today (LDS version) or is he God almighty who took the form of a perfect human being to fulfill the need for the perfect sacrifice as foretold in the Bible by the Old Testament sacrifices of the spotless innocent animals such as lambs?  </p>
<p>My concern is that people are following another gospel that is leading people towards outer darkness.</p>
<p>Because the Bible warns in Galatians 1:9:</p>
<p>“if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed”</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
		<link>http://www.mormondna.org/mormon-beliefs/mormons-planet-die.html#comment-518</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right about the door being left open to those who humbly seek the truth and that truth can be found in the Bible the only source, the true Word of God, that we need for all things spiritual.

My question to you and others from the LDS church, do you truly know that you are forgiven from you sins, not just mistakes, but sins that would put you into outer darkness forever after you die?  

Because if you aren&#039;t sure, you can know with all certainty by repenting (turning away) from your sins and believing in the true Jesus of the Bible, not just the spiritual brother of you, me, and even Satan, but Jesus who is both God almighty and who also came to this earth for a brief moment in time and who took on the form of a perfect human being to be sacrificed in our place on the cross to give us something none of us deserve and none of us can ever earn, a place in heaven for eternity with God.

This was foretold by the old testament prophets such as Isaiah who said in Isaiah 53 which was written hundreds of years before Jesus came to this earth in perfect human form:

“But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

From John 19:
“After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.”
Also from John 19:  “He said, “It is finished!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.”
So what was fulfilled and what was finished? 

1.	 The predictions of the old testament prophets of the coming and the crucifixion of the Messiah to take away the sins of the world.
2.	And his rising from the dead three days later to conquer sin and death, not just to give us a chance to be righteous, which is utterly impossible on our own apart from believing in him.  As the Bible says in Romans 3, “There is none righteous, no, not one.”

But the good news is found in Romans 10: 
“that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.”

Also from Romans 10:
“For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved”

So the Bible is complete and we have no need of any modern prophets to point the way to anything else but to Jesus and him crucified for all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right about the door being left open to those who humbly seek the truth and that truth can be found in the Bible the only source, the true Word of God, that we need for all things spiritual.</p>
<p>My question to you and others from the LDS church, do you truly know that you are forgiven from you sins, not just mistakes, but sins that would put you into outer darkness forever after you die?  </p>
<p>Because if you aren&#8217;t sure, you can know with all certainty by repenting (turning away) from your sins and believing in the true Jesus of the Bible, not just the spiritual brother of you, me, and even Satan, but Jesus who is both God almighty and who also came to this earth for a brief moment in time and who took on the form of a perfect human being to be sacrificed in our place on the cross to give us something none of us deserve and none of us can ever earn, a place in heaven for eternity with God.</p>
<p>This was foretold by the old testament prophets such as Isaiah who said in Isaiah 53 which was written hundreds of years before Jesus came to this earth in perfect human form:</p>
<p>“But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.<br />
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.</p>
<p>From John 19:<br />
“After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.”<br />
Also from John 19:  “He said, “It is finished!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.”<br />
So what was fulfilled and what was finished? </p>
<p>1.	 The predictions of the old testament prophets of the coming and the crucifixion of the Messiah to take away the sins of the world.<br />
2.	And his rising from the dead three days later to conquer sin and death, not just to give us a chance to be righteous, which is utterly impossible on our own apart from believing in him.  As the Bible says in Romans 3, “There is none righteous, no, not one.”</p>
<p>But the good news is found in Romans 10:<br />
“that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.”</p>
<p>Also from Romans 10:<br />
“For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved”</p>
<p>So the Bible is complete and we have no need of any modern prophets to point the way to anything else but to Jesus and him crucified for all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Steimle</title>
		<link>http://www.mormondna.org/mormon-beliefs/mormons-planet-die.html#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Steimle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 23:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take back my statement then, although there was a time when the majority of Christian leaders rejected the idea of modern-day communication with God. 

You and I both claim to have the same external source of evidence, that is, communication with God via the Holy Spirit. Of course you claim God&#039;s spirit tells you one thing, and I claim it tells me something different. There&#039;s no objective way to prove things are one way or another. That is, I can&#039;t prove my views to you, and you can&#039;t prove your views to me (although obviously we&#039;ll all be presented with objective proof once we die). 

But I don&#039;t see a problem with this. God didn&#039;t set up things so that anyone could prove to another what is true. He set things up so that each person, individually, could prove to himself what is true. My purpose with this website is not to prove to anyone that anything is true. My only purpose is to clarify the Mormon point of view where it has been misrepresented, and to show that Mormon theology can not be proven to be false. As long as the door is left open, I&#039;m sure those who humbly seek the truth will find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take back my statement then, although there was a time when the majority of Christian leaders rejected the idea of modern-day communication with God. </p>
<p>You and I both claim to have the same external source of evidence, that is, communication with God via the Holy Spirit. Of course you claim God&#8217;s spirit tells you one thing, and I claim it tells me something different. There&#8217;s no objective way to prove things are one way or another. That is, I can&#8217;t prove my views to you, and you can&#8217;t prove your views to me (although obviously we&#8217;ll all be presented with objective proof once we die). </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t see a problem with this. God didn&#8217;t set up things so that anyone could prove to another what is true. He set things up so that each person, individually, could prove to himself what is true. My purpose with this website is not to prove to anyone that anything is true. My only purpose is to clarify the Mormon point of view where it has been misrepresented, and to show that Mormon theology can not be proven to be false. As long as the door is left open, I&#8217;m sure those who humbly seek the truth will find it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua, you said the following:

&quot;A primary difference between Mormons and the rest of Christianity is that most of the rest of Christianity doesn’t even claim to have any source of external instruction to tell them what the Bible means.&quot;

Yes we do have a source and that is the teacher, the Holy Spirit, who Jesus said would be coming to help us.

So what source would I trust, man, which is the only external source we could possibly have, or would I trust God the Holy Spirit?

I think the choice is obvious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua, you said the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;A primary difference between Mormons and the rest of Christianity is that most of the rest of Christianity doesn’t even claim to have any source of external instruction to tell them what the Bible means.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes we do have a source and that is the teacher, the Holy Spirit, who Jesus said would be coming to help us.</p>
<p>So what source would I trust, man, which is the only external source we could possibly have, or would I trust God the Holy Spirit?</p>
<p>I think the choice is obvious!</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Steimle</title>
		<link>http://www.mormondna.org/mormon-beliefs/mormons-planet-die.html#comment-515</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Steimle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, it&#039;s all a matter of interpretation. Without external revelation, we don&#039;t know what the correct interpretation of scripture is. Left to our own devices, the best we can do is make assumptions about what the words of the Bible mean.

A primary difference between Mormons and the rest of Christianity is that most of the rest of Christianity doesn&#039;t even claim to have any source of external instruction to tell them what the Bible means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, it&#8217;s all a matter of interpretation. Without external revelation, we don&#8217;t know what the correct interpretation of scripture is. Left to our own devices, the best we can do is make assumptions about what the words of the Bible mean.</p>
<p>A primary difference between Mormons and the rest of Christianity is that most of the rest of Christianity doesn&#8217;t even claim to have any source of external instruction to tell them what the Bible means.</p>
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